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p.s. I should also add that in Peoplesoft, in addition to effective date, there is of "effective sequence."  In other words multiple rows with the same effective date (no time component), ordered by...

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While I agree that it's hard to enforce the end effective date reliably -- that's why they are never recorded in ERPs like PeopleSoft -- on the other hand, my job as a DW designer is to give...

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Kyle Hale,I am not sure why you are referring to get "next row's Start date" with Windowing function but to get the "next row's End date":SELECT [Id] ,[NId] ,[Name] ,[HomeTown] ,[MaritalStatus]...

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Can we get an update to this blog using a windowing function to get the next row's start date to avoid the join?Just to render that whole "INNER JOIN" argument moot.

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Jamie,Your concept overlays a bit with the Data Vault methodology.   I think what is missing in much of the comments is "EDW" versus "MRT".   In Kimball's world the marts are most often copies or...

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"profanely ignorant". Wow. Is it "profanely ignorant" to have an opinion that differs from that of ... ummm... someone else?

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That is profanely ignorant reasoning against Kimball's Type 2 SCD handling. Kimball calls for a data time stamp that provides a distinct time range for each dimensional change for a related record set....

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Using Composable DML to maintain entity history [T-SQL]

I recently inherited a data warehousing SQL Server solution from my good buddy James Rowland-Jones (you

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Thank you Vishy, for pointing me to the site, as I really like Jamiet's scripts and the comments. The topic will definitely win a medal in Kimball forum.I think I remember seeing similar structure (one...

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Hello Vishy,I'm not sure I understand, the blog post above does not talk about issuing UPDATEs. Can you explain a bit more perhaps?JT

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I followed this but it updates all the previous rows with the startdate of most recent row.

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Great to hear Emil, thanks.

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Update.... I have just used and tested this method and it was easy to implement and worked with my unsual scenario (BusinessKey > 1 in one load) perfectly.It also has extra benefit in my case of...

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Hi Emil,Thanks for the reply. Your situation sounds exactly like the sort of scenario that can be prone to error.I find it interesting that you are prioritising the validity of your data ahead of ETL...

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re: Debunking Kimball Effective Dates

Jamie,I agree with your post completely. Even that we have a view on top of the table with the logic it is just much simplier and less error prone comparing to trying to handle it in ETL. I'm not...

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Hi,I am new to DW,This really good.But I would like to know ,What will be the Fact table structure,If I use SCD 2 with Start date and End date and Which date(start date or end date) will be pointing to...

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Debunking Kimball Effective Dates part 2 – Windowing Functions

Reigniting the [SCDEndDate] debate In November 2009 I wrote a blog post entitled Debunking Kimball Effective

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Kevin,,Interesting. I'm not really concerned because typically I would use this technique in BI systems which only get written to during an overnight batch. Definitely would be an issue for a highly...

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We use a similar schema in a production database storing only the start date.  Recently, we ran into an issue where the data was changing in the table between the first read of the table and the second...

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Interesting thread. In response to some of the posts I'd like to point out that the view does not impact the majority of the end users query's. During actual usage of the data warehouse, the majority...

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